How Consciousness Heals Trauma | Remote Viewing, Somatic Therapy & Breathwork with Seema Sharma | ANEW Ep 65

In this powerful episode of the ANEW Insight Podcast, Dr. Supatra Tovar sits down with Holistic Trauma Therapist Seema Sharma to explore how consciousness is the key to unlocking deep trauma healing. From government-sponsored remote viewing programs to somatic therapy, breathwork, and energy-based healing, this conversation bridges science, psychology, and spirituality.

Seema shares her personal evolution from Fortune 500 executive to founder of Legacy Trauma Therapy and The Consciousness Center. Learn how her unique integration of traditional therapy with non-local consciousness, emotional integration, and somatic practices offers a groundbreaking approach to healing trauma—both personal and intergenerational.

We also explore:

• What consciousness really is—and how it’s measured in neuroscience and psychology
• The science behind Holotropic Breathwork and how it compares to psychedelics
• The role of the limbic system in trauma and loneliness
• Tools like automatic writing, nature immersion, “lead by spirit” weekends, and intention setting
• How one person’s healing can positively impact generations
• Why unresolved trauma lives in the body—and how to safely release it
  
  

Seema also dives into how transpersonal psychology, APA Division 32, and notable research institutions like Duke and the University of Arizona are bringing legitimacy to fields once labeled as fringe science.

What makes this episode truly compelling is our discussion on the government’s former use of psychic intelligence through declassified remote viewing programs. Seema explains how these initiatives explored the boundaries of human perception and contributed to the current body of research on transpersonal psychology. You’ll also hear about the APA’s Division 32, studies from institutions like Duke and the University of Arizona, and how researchers like Charles Tart and Marjorie Wolcott are pushing the science of consciousness forward.

For those navigating inherited family trauma, Seema breaks down how a single individual’s healing journey can ripple through entire generations. Her therapy model empowers individuals to reconnect with their authentic selves, release energetic blocks, and move beyond survival mode. We also explore actionable tools like automatic writing, meditation, somatics, and “lead by spirit” weekends to guide you into deeper alignment with your true self.

Whether you’re a clinician, trauma survivor, wellness seeker, or simply curious about the deeper dimensions of healing, this episode offers powerful insight and evidence-based practices that illuminate the path to wholeness.

If you're interested in trauma-informed therapy, somatic psychology, or spiritual approaches to healing, this episode is a must-watch.

Wants to know about Seema Sharma here is her social media channels: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/se

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Transcript

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Welcome to the ANEW Insight Podcast


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empowering and inspiring your journey
to optimal health.


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Hosted by Doctor
Supatra Tovar, clinical psychologist,


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registered dietitian, fitness expert
and author of Deprogram Diet Culture:


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Rethink Your Relationship with Food,
Heal Your Mind, and Live a Diet Free Life.


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I follow my guests’ journey
to optimal health,


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providing you with the keys
to unlock your own wellness path.


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Tune in and evolve with us.


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Hello,
and welcome to the ANEW Insight Podcast.


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I am Doctor Supatra Tovar,
and I am thrilled to have holistic


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trauma therapist
Seema Sharma with us today.


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Seema welcome. Thank you.


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I'm going to read a little bit about Seema,
and then we're going


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to get right into our questions for her.


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Seema Sharma, MA, MBA, LMFT


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is a dedicated to trauma therapist
and the founder


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of the Consciousness Center
and Legacy Trauma Therapy,


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a groundbreaking approach
to healing intergenerational trauma


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through consciousness
and emotional integration.


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With over two decades of experience
in senior leadership


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at notable fortune
500 companies, Seema combines real world


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experience with her lifelong passion
and obsession with holistic healing.


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Deeply committed to empowering clients.


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Seema combines traditional therapeutic
techniques with innovative practices


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that tap into the transformative power
of awareness and self-discovery.


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Inspired by her own journey
and the profound resilience


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she has witnessed with her clients,
Seema specializes in


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helping individuals
break free from cycles of inherited pain,


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fostering healing that resonates across generations.


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Her mission is to guide people toward
reclaiming their authentic selves


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and building a legacy of emotional freedom
and wholeness.


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Welcome, Seema.


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Thank you.


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I'm so excited to pick your brain.


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Because I'm very interested
in the power of consciousness.


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But before we get into all of that, I
would love to hear your personal journey.


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How did that you know,
you said that you know, your own journey,


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helped you,
you know, guide your educational path.


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Give us a picture of that and
how that influenced how you treat trauma.


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Yeah. I was actually really struck by,


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and this is going to date me,


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a Peter Jennings special when I was in high school


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I loved him. Yes.


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And he did this special
on indigenous communities


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and global communities addressing trauma


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in a different way than the Western world.


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Yes. That really struck me
because the efficacy of that treatment


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was surpassing Western modalities.


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And I was in high school at the time


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and just absolutely
it awoken something in me.


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And so I knew at that moment in time, 


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that's exactly what I wanted to do.


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And I went on this search for a school
that I could almost do that at.


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And I landed at the Claremont Colleges
and they had at that time


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a degree called psychobiology.


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And I assumed I could somehow put that together,
but I was way


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ahead of the curve.


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Those sorts of programs weren’t really accessible


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for a lot of people or weren’t at notable schools.


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And so I gave up on that dream and decided
to move in to the corporate world


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where, you know, I climbed the ladder
and moved into senior leadership


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at some major companies
like General Motors and Amazon


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and companies like that, Pinterest was my last position.


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And I discovered looking around me
like the toxicity of our culture,


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the consciousness
and the lack of consciousness.


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In those environments really being pervasive.


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And I think it was somewhere around 2017


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where that dream in me was re-awoken.


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And I came across a school
in San Francisco,


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which was a drive
from Southern California.


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A bit.


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A bit, yes. And, attended the California
Institute of Integral Studies,


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where they had a mind, body, spirit program.


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That really was almost


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what I was looking for all those years.


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Oh wow.


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And I went through and I got my master's
degree and became a clinician that way.


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And then, knew for certain
that I was going to pursue my PhD.


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And be focused on transpersonal healing
through the lens of consciousness.


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I love this. Yeah.


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And so that's what I did, and I eventually


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steped down from leadership.


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Just this past
July and decided to go full steam ahead


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and created the Consciousness, Consciousness Center,


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as well as Legacy Trauma Therapy


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dedicated for dedicated to consciousness,


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which is still a lens
I don't see very much of


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in the therapeutic world.


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Give us a picture of what you know,


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your understanding of consciousness
was from Peter Jennings,


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of what it wasn't in the fortune
500 companies,


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and what you, you know,
I think a lot of people I think


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consciousness is kind of a vague term
and they don't really fully understand it.


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What was your, you know, kind of learning
path to where you are now?


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Yeah.


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A big key component of the Peter Jennings special,


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which was, probably edited in a lot of ways


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at that time, was the collective.


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And that's essentially
what consciousness is.


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It is a fabric
that connects all living things


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and non-living things on this planet.


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And looking at the corporate world,
survival is independence.


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Survival is protection of self, survival is individualism.


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And not collective, so you created a system


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that goes against the very fabric
of who we are as human beings.


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And of course there's going to be toxicity.


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There's going to be people that climb
the ranks that have pathology.


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And so that's really what I witnessed.


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Was the various pathologies, various
like separations


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between teams, rivalry, competition
as well as opposed to collaboration. Wow.


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Yeah. Wow.


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And then? And then now,
in my understanding,


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through a scientific and research lens,


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we know that there is consciousness
that exists locally,


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which is within us, our awareness
of who we are, our awareness of our body,


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but also a non-local consciousness that impacts us.


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Because if you look at the human body
through an electromagnetic lens,


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we know that we exist beyond the material,
which is our physical body.


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We actually can exist, you know, feet away
so that depending on mood


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we expand and contract
like energetic beings.


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And so there is a lot of us
that's still not understood.


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And there's a lot of us
that is the nonphysical.


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And so that too has an awareness.


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That's really what consciousness is,
is the understanding of human experience


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that encompasses all parts of our,
you know, inputs.


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And awareness.


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How are they able to measure that?


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Yeah.


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So we there are mixed methods studies.


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We're far more
we have to be far more astringent


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in terms of our research
than other mainstream research.


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We have some notable people
like Charles Tart.


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He's done a lot of research related to


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his work
is what created clinical hypnotherapy.


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A lot of his work is in that.


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But they’ve parsed out the transpersonal.


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He does double single double and triple
blind studies


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as well as Steven Schwartz,
another great researcher.


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They study all kinds of people.


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The largest body of research
for transpersonal psychology,


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one of them is
the United States government.


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And so a lot of that research for us
comes from the U.S.


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government, comes from Duke University,
which has Brain, the Brain Institute there.


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It comes from a University of Arizona.


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A lot of schools are moving
into the world of consciousness


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and trying to understand this one variable
that's kind of been omitted.


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We are also part of the APA.


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It's really hard to find us.


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We are a part of division 32.


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And there is an entire section
of transpersonal psychology.


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What was the government, you know, why
were they so interested in consciousness?


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Was it a part of like, MKUltra?


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And, you know, kind of like,


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you know, mind melding experiments
and things like that.


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Yeah. So what,


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so, this comes from my class,
you know, Foundations of Consciousness.


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And we had a lot of the people
that were working in the government


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come up, come through our class
and talk about what they were doing.


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They were part of the defense system.


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Every country has remote viewers
as part of their defense system.


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Is what we were told.


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This program was shut down
by the recent political swing.


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And so they've kind of not been.


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They don't have a job,
but they are remote viewers.


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They know


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and are able to psychically determine
what's happening in other countries.


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They are part of the defense system. Whoa.


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That is wild.


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And you said that it's shut down now by?


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Conservative, conservative politicians.


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That's what I was told.


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Wow. Yeah.


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And so at the moment, it's shut down,
but the research has been declassified,


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which has allowed us to then access that piece of research.


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What have you learned?


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There's quite a bit out there.


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I think this is older


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research, this is very archaic.


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Some of the greatest research
I want to say comes from one


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and some of the newer researchers.


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My personal favorite
is Marjorie Wolcott,


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who does, a lot of studies with savants.


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So, autistic savants,
nonverbal around


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being able to read the clinicians
mind. Their clinician's mind.


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So they'll hold up a card
and they'll write down what the card is.


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The accuracy.


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There's even a YouTube video out there
if you want to look that up.


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As to like how that research was done.


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Well I think it's in some ways similar
to I'm sure


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you've heard of the Silva Method?


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And using that level


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of consciousness
to kind of read other people's minds.


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What is the application of consciousness?


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Consciousness,
the awareness of it and trauma treatment?


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Yeah.


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So these are the pieces of research
when it comes to trauma treatment,


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we've got to come back to the individual.


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Every human being on this planet
has an idea of why they're here.


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What their purpose is. If they really.


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And that's what our goal is,
is to use transpersonal tactics


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and techniques in order
to help them rediscover themselves.


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Anyways, I think parapsychology
gets a lot of bandwidth


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in transpersonal psychology,
but it's not a majority of our discipline.


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A big part is meaning and purpose.


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A lot of our transpersonal psychologists
are focused on transformation.


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Transformation of the self,
which is a naturally evolving process.


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And our propensity to get better.


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So when we look at trauma,
we want to almost


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allow the person to tap into


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the non-local consciousness.


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To give them a good idea of who they are.


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A great there's a lot of ways to do that
and then come back,


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move back into the local consciousness
and look at their story.


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And that's for those
that are more stabilized.


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Of course if they're coming in


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we have been heavily trained
on traditional methods and you know.


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Been through the whole ISSTD.


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Like you know advanced trauma training
and everything else.


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So we do have traditional methods.


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But when it comes to using consciousness
we're using


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that transcending experiences.


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A great one that gets a lot of news
is psychedelics.


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Psychedelics is under the umbrella
of transpersonal psychology.


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Because of the transformations that come from that.


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So aside from psychedelics say somebody


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you know against that doesn't you know
they don't want to do you know drugs.


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How can they access the outer
personal consciousness?


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Yeah.


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One of the things I always,


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very often, have
my clients do is Holotropic Breathwork.


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Breathwork is just the very active
breathing and fast,


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rapid breathing mimics,


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very similarly, psychedelics.


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And so it's, it's far more aligned to


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trauma healing
because the client is always in control.


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And so I've had clients come to me
for various things.


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And one of the things
my dissertation is on loneliness.


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A lot of them
come to me for loneliness or like chronic loneliness.


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This makes them feel connected
within an hour. Wow.


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And so this is actually reactivates


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some of the receptor degradation
that's occurred in the limbic system.


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Due to prolonged periods of loneliness.


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Which really create, in efficacy of SSRI’s.


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So they have medication.


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It's ineffective.


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Because they don't have the receptors
for the re uptake.


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So what we're doing
is almost reactivating


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those receptors through the use of breath. Okay.


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You got to break that down into plainer English


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for people who don't necessarily
understand limbic system.


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And what happens with loneliness.


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I think you can probably equate that
to trauma as well and what it does


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to the limbic system,


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but help our listeners understand
that on a, you know, simpler level.


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Sure.


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So the limbic system is really our trauma response.


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It is our automatic response
we have when we're triggered.


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And whenever we have
our limbic system is activated


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that means our neocortex
or our thinking brain is not online.


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So all of a sudden you're not thinking
you're not able to make decisions.


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What you're doing is it's
a reactive portion of your, your brain.


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For people who would like really
want to understand that it's like fight


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or flight or freeze is really
what she's talking about.


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Correct, yeah. And so there's receptors there.


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So when you take antidepressants
for example,


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they break down
and they break down and are absorbed by,


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I like to say these little hats,
that kind of catch the little molecules


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and have them absorbed.


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But what happens with prolonged
loneliness is these hats stop working.


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They actually start like degrading like
degenerating within the limbic system.


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So you have no hats.


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What's happening is toxicity
is occurring as opposed to the re uptake


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which means the absorption
of the antidepressants.


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The thing that


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breathwork does as


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well as Psilocybin
specifically is. Drugs.


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Yeah. Is


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basically it gets those hats
working again. Wow.


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And so all of a sudden
and these are connector receptors too,


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or you can be in a room of people
and still feel lonely.


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They feel connected
for the first time as well. Wow.


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So give me a picture of what
the breathwork work looks like.


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You said it's rapid
breathing as opposed to controlled


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time breathing
and give me a picture of why


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rapid breathing activates this as opposed
to controlled, timed, slower breathing?


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Yeah.


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One of the biggest researchers around
this is Dan Roth.


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And he's one of the founders


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of transpersonal psychology,
but also founders of psychedelics.


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And one that was illegal, made illegal
in the United States in the 60s.


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He started doing a lot of
research around breathwork.


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His research,


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there isn't a reasoning
as to why it happens.


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How how breath is self-healing.


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But I think the point is
we have the ability to heal ourselves.


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Yes. That is universal consciousness.


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And so that's the way
consciousness is working.


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Your own internal power
is working to heal yourself.


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Oh okay. So but through the breath.


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But why fast breaths?


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Yeah.


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Because it, over oxygenates.


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It over oxygenation of your brain


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creates that experience.


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I'm not exactly sure
how many trials he did to get this


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to be a certain way,
but that's what they know.


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That's what he's, he's trademarked
as Holotropic Breathwork. Wow.


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This is so fascinating.


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I, I'm curious to, you know, you were saying


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people have the ability


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to heal themselves, and we know that this,
you know, there's plenty of research


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out there showing that
people have been able to do that.


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Is it primarily through breathwork?


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I know, like through Reiki healing,


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they are tapping into universal
consciousness,


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the healers
and basically funneling it your way.


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But how
does it work if you're doing this yourself


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or you're doing this,
you know, in treatment with you?


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Yeah.


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So a lot of clients, the way it works


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is there's breathwork
is just one of the many, many tools.


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Depending on the client.


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We will pull out a tool like,
automatic writing.


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Writing talks to some people.


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And that's the variable of them
accessing that.


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So whatever it is that works
for that specific client.


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Is what we will utilize. What happens is
things show up that the client


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and know that provide them clarity,


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in a manner only they will know.


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One of my clients likes to say
like when she does this


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she like flies to the sky and she has
this profound experience and she's like


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I don't need treatment anymore
because I'm kind of done at six months.


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Wow. And she's been in therapy for
about like ten years prior to this. Wow.


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And that's the power of consciousness.
And that's the power of her.


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And they're picking up tools along the way
that they can almost keep with them.


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Another piece is intention.


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Just simply having intention.


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And I like to sight like, Doctor Emoto’s water experiment.


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Yes. That is fast.


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Tell everybody about that. So interesting.


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Yeah.


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So he's had all these little vials
of water and every single vial of water


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he kind of like,
expressed a different emotional state.


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Love was given to one vial of water


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and hate to another
to just make it really simple.


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And when these vials of water were frozen.


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The love turned into this crystal
that was gorgeous.


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Yeah, like little snowflakes.


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It was, like, beautiful. Yeah.


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And the one with hate turned into gray mush. Yes.


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And we are 70% water. Yes.


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And so that's one of the ways that we can,
almost through our the power of


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consciousness and thoughts,


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actually create change without actually,


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you know, like going through the process necessarily.


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But these are all little crutches
that help us to get where we want to go.


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Right.


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So I would assume meditation’s another way.


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You said automatic writing.


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Is there any other that stands out to you?


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Yeah.


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We also use nature quite a bit.


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Nature's one. We use lead by spirit


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which is basically allowing your,
your self to lead by your intuition.


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And not to judge that. The act of
learning to listen to your inner voice.


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And there's different ways to do it.


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And different techniques.


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But it depends on what the client's
coming in with. What they’ve struggled with.


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What that specific trauma was in terms of like
what specifically might work for them.


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Interesting.
Well, give us a few techniques.


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This is something I actually have
my clients just tap into


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or just to learn how to listen to that,
that still small voice.


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But I would love to hear
what techniques you have to offer.


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Yeah.


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My clients, I just have them do a weekends
led by inner self.


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You want to go get coffee?


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Go get coffee.
If you want to go to the beach


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and sit down, go sit down.


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Not allow that inner critic


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or that judgment piece or any other voice
to almost like take away from that.


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And it's been incredibly it's
been invaluable to a lot of my clients


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who have lived a life of trauma,
especially childhood trauma.


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This piece has been quashed.


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Yes. It's just the act of allowing space
for this to happen.


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In a more consistent fashion that then empowers them
to speak up in their everyday.


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Wow.  I could ask you a million
questions on this.


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This is so fascinating.


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I do want to talk about
how your therapy helps


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to break intergenerational trauma cycles.


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Explain how.


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Because I'm sure a lot of people out
there, are very interested and are aware


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of the cycles of trauma that have been
passed down over generations.


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Yeah.


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So when I work with a client,


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I will start working with a single member, a single client.


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And as they start making changes, as they
start reformulating the life they want,


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as they start looking at themselves
differently and their future differently.


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We are connected beings on this planet.


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They inadvertently affect
everyone around them,


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which then affects,
you know, generations afterwards. Yes.


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You know, me making changes in my life
time has definitely affected


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my three daughters.


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They have a very different future
than I've ever had.


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And it is has actually affected


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the generation above me like my aunts
and my uncles.


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Because they can witness the change
and then are empowered to make change


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themselves. Wow.


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And that's like the effect of


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intergenerational change.


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Is a single
person has the power to be the catalyst.


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How do you get them to understand that?


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I definitely work with my clients
to help them understand


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that their energy is, you know,


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is is infectious.


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Just like when you go into a room
and somebody is in a bad mood,


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you pick up on their energy
and oftentimes,


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you know, just inadvertently
get into a bad mood yourself.


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But do you teach them
that they have the power to change


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other people's energy
along with themselves?


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No, actually, I teach them.


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And that when we are impacted


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by another person’s energy, our receptors are turned out.


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So we are HSP, Highly Sensitive Person.


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We are picking up
the emotions around us. Yes.


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And that is a trauma response. Totally.


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And the goal is to almost release


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the fear and the responsibility of others.


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To live a liberated life.


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And that, authenticity.


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Authenticity
and the genuine nature of living


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in an aligned with your true self.


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That's what creates change is because
people see your energetic field expand


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in a way when you're
aligned with what you're doing.


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Right.


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Do you find that the one


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who usually seeks therapy,


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they may often be the scapegoat
of the family or they may often be


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the one that's like the most traumatized,
but then they end up being the one


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who helps lead the family toward better healing?


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Yeah, definitely.


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They are usually the IEP,
which is the scapegoat family, for sure


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or they are the, parentified.


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So either one.


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I get a lot of oldest children.


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For some reason.


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So I get a lot of oldest children


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that have been parentified, 
and just can't do it anymore.


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Yeah.


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I get a lot of over producers.


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So a lot of


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women who are executives come to me
because of my professional background.


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And they've been overproducing
over functioning.


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And compensating
for those around them. Yeah.


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And the act of almost stepping back
is the scariest thing in the world.


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So like that authentic self
allows you to step back where you need to


00:25:05:16 - 00:25:08:05
and step forward for yourself.


00:25:08:05 - 00:25:09:17
Oh I love this.


00:25:09:17 - 00:25:12:07
Now many people might not even realize


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that they're living
with the effects of trauma.


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What are some ways unresolved
trauma manifests itself in daily life?


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And how does one sense a connection
with consciousness


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help individuals recognize and address it?


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Yeah.


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So I think that, trauma manifests
in the mind, for sure.


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In our inner critic


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that's developed, it's usually the voice
of our biggest perpetrators.


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It also develops in the way we daydream.


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In you know, the things that we think
about, we, I think Donald Kalsched’s


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one of my favorite Jungian therapists
out there that talks about trauma.


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Has the inner child
dive into the underworld,


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of archetypes of his their persecutors.


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And that's really what it is.


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It's like they’ve created this world
within their head.


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And that's
what happens to those with trauma


00:26:03:13 - 00:26:07:00
is they're living in a reality
that isn't here.


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What happens to the body.


00:26:09:16 - 00:26:13:03
So as a somatic clinician as,
as well as like I'm noticing


00:26:13:10 - 00:26:16:10
psychosomatization gut problems.


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Problems in the neck and the shoulders
and all of these issues


00:26:19:20 - 00:26:22:03
related to various things
happening to them.


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A lot of like:
I don't know what's happening.


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Chronic pain. Prolonged pain.


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A lot of physicality
related to just holding on


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to their trauma for a long time. And


00:26:37:03 - 00:26:40:03
Dan Siegel always about, this is just energy.


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Yeah. Held in our body.


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And that's
where the consciousness comes through.


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Because when you're allowing consciousness
and being aligned


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to who you are, you release
some of this energy that's in your body.


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How? How do you help
people release that energy?


00:26:55:23 - 00:26:58:22
Yeah. Either through Somatics.


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Which is turning off your brain.


00:27:01:22 - 00:27:06:14
Turning off your head and not feeling, and it's like
not thinking but just feeling.


00:27:06:14 - 00:27:09:20
And allowing that to move forward
and allowing


00:27:09:20 - 00:27:12:20
that to have a voice.
Through similar to spirit leading,


00:27:13:09 - 00:27:15:14
is the body leading.


00:27:15:14 - 00:27:18:14
Embodied intelligence
is something that we all have.


00:27:18:23 - 00:27:21:13
Our body does know how to heal.


00:27:21:13 - 00:27:23:12
Does have memories.


00:27:23:12 - 00:27:25:18
And it's allowing those memories
to come forward.


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That might be vague for people


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if you could help them understand
how that actually works.


00:27:31:15 - 00:27:31:23
Yeah.


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I'll give you an example.


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I have a client come to me and,


00:27:36:11 - 00:27:37:16
wanted to do somatic


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experiencing therapy as a SUP.


00:27:39:21 - 00:27:43:19
So, really just have them
just take a deep breath


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and really just feel
what's going on in their body.


00:27:46:07 - 00:27:48:14
And intellectualization


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is usually the number one coping mechanism
for all my over performers.


00:27:52:06 - 00:27:54:13
And trauma, trauma folks.


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And it's like the hardest thing
is turning off that head.


00:27:57:09 - 00:27:58:02
Yeah.


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And simply feeling the emotion
that happens to sit in the body


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with no narrative and no story
but seeing what shows up.


00:28:06:03 - 00:28:10:04
What shows up is all of a sudden emotion,
feeling, shaking.


00:28:10:18 - 00:28:13:07
And that's how the energy starts moving.


00:28:13:07 - 00:28:16:20
And if we just sit with
it we'll start shifting around.


00:28:16:20 - 00:28:21:11
You’’ll start having, it'll be attached
to a feeling, an emotion, an image.


00:28:22:16 - 00:28:24:08
A lot of things can happen with that.


00:28:24:08 - 00:28:26:07
And that’s what we’re doing. It usually


00:28:26:07 - 00:28:29:06
exits through the top of the head
or through our feet.


00:28:29:08 - 00:28:32:03
We allow that energy to move through. Wow.


00:28:32:03 - 00:28:36:06
And what have you seen people experience
after that?


00:28:36:16 - 00:28:37:05
Yeah.


00:28:37:05 - 00:28:41:13
A lot of catharsis
like crying and a lot of movement.


00:28:41:13 - 00:28:43:07
Things that they didn't know
they were holding.


00:28:43:07 - 00:28:45:17
A lot of it is surprise.


00:28:45:17 - 00:28:48:17
Surprised that they were even holding
onto something like that.


00:28:48:17 - 00:28:52:04
Wow. A memory
that they couldn't recall before.


00:28:53:01 - 00:28:57:14
Because we are nonverbal, really,
before seven, we don't have full language.


00:28:57:23 - 00:28:59:17
So it is technically all in our body.


00:28:59:17 - 00:29:03:12
So when we work with childhood
 trauma we have to work with body.


00:29:03:12 - 00:29:04:02
Oh I love this.


00:29:04:02 - 00:29:06:07
I could, I could talk to you all day.


00:29:06:07 - 00:29:08:14
This is so fascinating to me.


00:29:08:14 - 00:29:11:04
We're out of time for this
half of this podcast.


00:29:11:04 - 00:29:15:10
But we are coming back and we hope
you all come back for the second half


00:29:15:10 - 00:29:20:18
of this amazing episode with Seema Sharma,
Holistic Trauma Therapist.


00:29:20:18 - 00:29:22:17
She is incredible.


00:29:22:17 - 00:29:27:00
And and really this is innovative
in terms of the treatment of trauma.


00:29:27:00 - 00:29:31:19
Is this something that, you know,
is emerging as an amazing field.


00:29:32:03 - 00:29:34:23
And she's right at the forefront of it.


00:29:34:23 - 00:29:37:23
So come back next week.


00:29:38:00 - 00:29:38:07
Sorry.


00:29:38:07 - 00:29:43:15
Come back next time for the second
half of this amazing episode.


00:29:43:16 - 00:29:44:18
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